New transducer - won't transmit?

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Furuno Super Fan
I replaced the old 600w ducer with a 1k TM265 transducer, ERT 6/10N sounder and a backlit LED VX2. I changed the dip switch on the sounder to the 1kw setting. After install, I disabled transmit because I was on the hard.

After launching today, I went into the Sounder settings and tried to switch the Transmit from off to on - but it wouldn't change the setting. Tried several times, always reverts back to off. Any advice on what to try next?
 
Update - Noticed that the light on the ETR-6/10N is slow blinking, that appears to be normal operation. Also, while playing around in the settings/configuration, on one screen (Nav Settings i believe) it showed depth and temp when both were set to ETR (and not NMEA). However, nothing appears on the main Sounder screen and I still cannot turn on Transmit.

I also tried to run the sounder test and it changes to a black screen but they quickly flashes back to the menu screen.

Any ideas?
 
The sounder test flashing an going back to menu indicates you are not talking to the sounder. If you changed nothing else but the jumper in the sounder when you upgraded the transducer; I suspect the problem is there. J8 should have the jumper between 1-2; and J12 should have the jumper between pins 3-4.
 
Johnny,

Opened the ETR-6/10N up again today and confirmed the jumpers on J8 and J12 as you described. I tried moving J12 back to 1/2 but same result, would not allow me to change the setting to transmit power.

Confirmed the wiring from the transducer to the Sounder is good, the hub is powered and lights are flashing. Fuse in the unit is good too.

Indicator light continues to flash.

The new 10-pin TM260 transducer (http://www.internationalmarineservi...-1kW-Transducer-w-Bracket-p/fur-tm260-10f.htm is a broadband unit - is this compatible with the ETR-6/10N?

Are there any settings on the VX2 that need to be changed?
 
Johnny,

Opened the ETR-6/10N up again today and confirmed the jumpers on J8 and J12 as you described. I tried moving J12 back to 1/2 but same result, could not get it transmit power.

Confirmed the wiring from the transducer to the Sounder is good, the hub is powered and lights are flashing. Fuse in the unit is good too.

Indicator light continues to flash.

The new TM260 transducer (http://www.internationalmarineservi...-1kW-Transducer-w-Bracket-p/fur-tm260-10f.htm is a broadband unit - is this compatible with the ETR-6/10N?

Are there any settings on the VX2 that need to be changed?
 
Follow-up, read another post on this site about changing the jumpers and the mod stated - "Note: Do not insert the jumper connector upside down." - I didn't pay attention to the orientation of the jumper when I installed it and thought they were universal - could this be the problem?
 
A little more info, I forgot to add the VX2 is also new in the networking having replaced a VX1 previously.

My plan is to power up the VX1 and check all the settings and align them to the new unit. I will then plug in the old xducer hanging over the side of the boat for both the old and new unit to see if I can isolate the problem - hopefully, its not the new xducer.

I have a used DFF1 being delivered that once I isolate the problem, will replace the BFF1.

Still open to ideas if there are any...?
 
The jumper will not make an electrical connection if upside down, so you should check it.
You should ensure you NavNet has the sounder source setup for ETRO/Sounder0 before running the self test.
 
Thanks Johnny, I tried the jumper both ways and it didn't make a difference. Also, confirmed that the sounder source is ETRO/Sounder0.

Also tried a DFF1 in place of the BFF1, same result - the VX2 does not recognize the sounder. LED light remains lit (solid on) on the DFF1.

I bypassed the router and connected the DFF1 directly to the VX2 using a MJ-A6SPF0014-100 to MJ6SRMD/TM11AP8-005 cables - no difference. I'd previously removed the other devices on my NavNet network so the router is no longer needed.

Since the VX2 is new to my boat, I tried a reset (PWR-CLR) and ran through the installation again. Now, at least the Transmit Sounder is "On" in settings but still cannot do the self-test or get a reading from the sounder. This also seemed to screw up my AIS input which was previously working. I am getting no data at all on the port monitor. I need to double-check I have the cables in the right ports, but this is frustrating.

Any other ideas?
 
Solid light means communication error. You might want to try different network cables in case one is broken. If doing a direct connection you also need a crossover connection. If you have an overall straight connection it won't work.
 
Thanks Johnny, I can try a different network cable when I'm at the boat on the weekend.

Can you clarify - is the MJ6SRMD/TM11AP8-005 a cross-over or straight connection? If straight, I'll go back to the router connection.
 
The blue network cables are a cross-over. The black RJ45 adapter cables are also a cross over. Put them together and you have a straight. You only have the one cable and it is blue?
 
I have several blue cables and several black RJ45 adapter cables. The original install was blue wires from the various devices to the black adapter cables into the netgear router. I believe the router handles the hand-off's between straight and cross-over cables, so I'll just connect everything back through the router.
 
Don't use a router. (they have firewalls and assign IP addresses)
Ensure it is a hub or a switch. New hubs/switches will have auto sensing ability so as you say will fix any straight/crossover issue.
 
If it is an older model that has been on the boat; you might want to google the part number to ensure it is auto sensing. Older hubs were not and you did have to worry about the cross/non-cross connection.
 
Johnny, you're a genius - it was a cabling issue - probably the hub gave it up. I sacrificed one of the black cables and changed the RJ45 plug wiring from a cross-over to a straight through and it worked with the original blue wire running direct to the Vx2. It was not easy getting the wires right in the RJ45 connector, I was surprised there were only 2 pairs in the cable and the colors didn't conform to the EIA/TRIA 568 standard.

For anyone else that tries this, to change the black wire to a straight through the color sequence is:

Pin 1 - Blue
Pin 2 - White
Pin 3 - Yellow
Pin 6 - Brown

For me to get the Pin 6 wire in the right location, I inserted two "blank" wires from a cat5 cable to fill Pins 4 and 5 and then crimped after everything was lined up properly.
 
One more question (I hope). While I was getting a sonar reading, the reading wasn't great (had to manually adjust bottom offset by 3-4'. I tried both Auto and manual gain but couldn't find something that worked great. Are there any settings on the VX2 that should be adjusted for a 1kw xducer?
 
There is a Jumper in the ETR6/10N that should be setup for 1KW but otherwise operations for a 1kw is the same as a 600w.
 
I realized that the sonar depth reading was in meters, not Feet (my preference) even though in the setup it was set for feet. Changed the setting and good bottom reading, consistent with my other Transducer. However, it doesn't save my settings for feet. Each time I turn the unit on, it defaults to meters even though the setup is in feet. I need to go into settings, change it to something else (like meters) and then change it back to feet. This can't be right, can you suggest what needs to be changed to remember my settings?
 
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