3.01 update

[gtstang462002]

It seems this was quietly dropped today. Figures I would be travelling when it drops.... Does that updated sidescan require a new transducer I presume?

https://youtu.be/aEkCThMTefU

 

[Magnetron]

Aye,

In order to do the new side scan features you will need the appropriate side scan transducers plugged into the XDR port of a dedicated "Side Scan Supported" TZ Touch 3 (e.g. TZT12F/16F/19F). Rumor has it they should be coming in anytime.

Hope this helps, :sail

- Maggy

 

[mattology]

What is the part number for the new transducer?

does it have a dedicated down scan element as well?

 

[danderer]

If I should find a significant problem after installing 3.01 is it possible to revert to 2.0X?

Can v3 and v2 units run together in the same network?

Thanks.

 

[Quitsa]

If I should find a significant problem after installing 3.01 is it possible to revert to 2.0X?

Can v3 and v2 units run together in the same network?

Thanks.

The instructions seem to say that you can have a TZT 2 with the most recent software on the same network but you have to start the TZT 3s first. It would be good if one of the moderators can confirm that is correct before those of us with hybrid networks mess things up!.

Also it isn't clear whether there are any related updates for the DRS25A-NXT or DFF-3D that need to be done in conjunction with the MFD updates. I did not see any new downloads so maybe not?

 

[danderer]

Ah, sorry I wan't clear. What I meant to ask was:

Can TZT3 units, some running v3 and some running v2, coexist on the same network? I'd envision testing one MFD on v3 before updating them all.

 

[Quitsa]

Ah, sorry I wan't clear. What I meant to ask was:

Can TZT3 units, some running v3 and some running v2, coexist on the same network? I'd envision testing one MFD on v3 before updating them all.

With prior updates, the guidance was always to update all the units on the network at the same time.

If you go to the Furuno Japan site, it seems to still have the V.2.05 update for the TZT3. I think you could download that and use it to restore the current version if the update to 3.01 creates problems for you. This is where I saw it https://www.furuno.com/en/support/uploader/

 

[mattology]

Where is the new chirp side scan bulletin as referenced in page 4 of the overview of changes made to tztouch3 with v3 software pdf?

 

[Johnny Electron]

There is no problem downgrading if you decide v3 is not for you.

Overall, v3 only offers good things and I doubt anyone will want to downgrade. It should not be mixed with other TZT3 units that haven't been updated. Upgrade all TZT3s or don't. TZT3 v3 will mix perfectly fine with TZT2 v8.01. Very soon (Tuesday I think), we should be introducing v9 software for the TZT2BB. V9 will bring many of these advancements to TZT2BB which has the same processor and memory as the TZT3 units. For the most part a TZT2BB is a TZT3 with the TZT2 sounder. TZT2 12 and 15 units will remain at 8.01 for now because the processor and memory is not the same as these other models.

Late next week more details are going to be released about the Side-Scan, including part numbers etc. I will say, you haven't seen anything like it. It is another Furuno offering coming in to do existing better. We will let the feature speak for itself over time, but all I can say is WOW. Unfortunately it will likely make it harder to lay hands on TZT3 MFDs. I think the underpromise and overdeliver saying, will prove strong with the TZT3 series. Standby for more details over the next roughly 10 days.

 

[Quitsa]

Thanks for the reply. But should we see related updates to the other network sensors such as the radars and DFF-3D?

 

[Johnny Electron]

Radars have an update coming very soon to support the new channel mode discussed in the v3 release. Best guess is over the next 15 days. DFF3D is not receiving an update that I am aware of. All of the new feature items discussed about DFF3D in the v3 release document is done in the MFD; not the DFF3D itself.

 

[JG400]

Where will the information for the side scan be released? On the Furunousa.com website?

Jake

 

[backman]

Is there a bugs fixed list anywhere?

I’m intended in whether the Sirius timeline issue has been addressed…

 

[wkearney99]

How do I tell what my tzt3 16f units have on them?

Using the built-in home>settings>general>check for updates simply says 'the latest software is installed on this device'

Initial setup>quick self test has a bunch of versions.

System and Initial versions read: 1950210-2.01

The last bit makes me think it's running v2.01?

Can it do an online update to v3?

If not where do I download v3 for it?

 

[gtstang462002]

You are correct. The last bit indicates v 2.01. You can download the directions on how to update and the update here: https://furunousa.com/en/products/TZT12F

 

[Johnny Electron]

gtstang462002 is correct and you can go directly to 3.01. No step updating is required. Changes and fixes are listed under the software tab as Software History along with the programming and instructions.

 

[wkearney99]

DONE.

Updated both units to 3.01 using an external USB drive. The one I used was 64gb but I created a 29gb FAT32 partition on it "just in case" the updater was strict about using a 32gb or smaller drive.

it takes A WHILE to complete. But it's easy, prep the USB drive, turn off the TZT3, plug in the USB (into the white cable from the back of the TZT3) and power it up. Now... WAIT. It'll take a while and show a lot of things. But eventually you'll be presented with dialog box telling you to remove the USB memory (odd wording, but the point is clear). BUT you're not done yet. When it restarts it'll take several more minutes to finish it up.

As a side note, DO NOT randomly update any Maretron DSM410 displays you might have. I had some that were a pretty old version and attempting to load the latest one failed, and may have locked at least one of them. Though this is not a Furuno issue at all, just a warning to be careful about doing many updates at one time.

Where it IS a possible issue is knowing whether or not the latest release (of any device firmware) is suitable for loading onto whatever you've got in the field. My TZT3 were running 2.01 so this wasn't a big leap. Never hurts to check and be sure.

 

[backman]

I have 4 MFDs in my system, 2 have easy USB access, 2 require minor disassembly for access.

Is there any way to update one with a USB and have the rest get their update from another MFDs USB?

I suspect the answer is no but trying to avoid a couple hours of work of possible.

 

[wkearney99]

I had to climb inside the compartment on my flybridge to reach the white USB cable for one of mine. If you have more than one that are in the same location it'd probably be useful to create more than one USB drive with the update so you're only going in there to plug it in, and remove it when done.

And before disassembling think about whether something else on the console might be more easily removed to allow you to reach in there to get to the USB port. I did that to remove a Twin Disc throttle/transmission control a few weeks ago. It was much easier to remove another device next to it. Especially because it was held in with 4 nut/bolts and would've required two people.

There is the SDU001 external card reader than can be attached to each TZT, but I've not seen anything that indicates if it can be used for firmware updates like this.

https://www.furunousa.com/en/products/sdu001

I have one connected to one of my TZT3 (using the white USB cable) but I didn't think to try using it for this update. I've learned for device updates it's often important to avoid deviating from the instructions in any way.

Can we get a heads-up from Furuno as to whether the SDU001 would actually work for updates or not?

 

[wkearney99]

The good part is the USB socket is on pigtail cord out of the back of the TZT3 units, so you don't have to get to the harder to reach internal card behind the screwed-on access plate on the top.

Some have their installs using a USB extension cord from that white USB cable to someplace more accessible. Any simple USB socket extender would work, as it's just extending the port, into which you'd plug the necessary USB drive. Could be worth considering as an addition for anyone doing updates now and making it easier for any future ones. USB itself supports a max of 15' extending and I'd avoid pushing that. The socket wouldn't "have to be" directly exposed (aka waterproof and all that) but could just be wired to a point that's "less hassle" to reach while still protected inside a cabinet.