DFF3D deep water performance

Stretch89

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Hi, currently looking into adding this to my boat. Already have an 1150 and SC. Do allot of deep water fishing here in Australia depths from 150-650m. How deep can the DFF3D give 3D bottom images and sonar? Do you have any pics of this being used in deep water?
 
Stretch89,
I am comfortable saying mapping the seabed to 300m is possible with a good transducer installation.

Snips
 

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Snips":101akduc said:
Stretch89,
I am comfortable saying mapping the seabed to 300m is possible with a good transducer installation.

Snips

What is the angle configuration of the cones in this image?

Regards

Angelo
 
Mamasso,
I honestly don't remember. Normally I use 40/40/40 and rarely change them.

Snips
 
Hi snips,

Can you be kind enough and give us the settings you are using to get the images you posted above. As I am no where close to the clarity you show in your attached pics.

Thanks

Kgb666
 
kgb666,
I don't remember the settings as that was from a test we did well over a year ago. But really I did nothing special. One thing about this test vessel is that is has a very good transducer installation which is the primary factory in achieving good deep water performance.

Snips
 
Pthein,
He used a 165T-B54.
It wasn't your typical installation as it was mounted aft in one of the vessels keel mounted transducer tanks. This transducer wasn't designed to be mounted like that as it was totally submerged. He ended up making an epoxy end cap to seal the cables.

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Thanks for they reply mate, I’m getting my 3kw low transducer moved into a drop down pole do achieve deeper water as I’ve had issue with turbulence. Would you recommend having the DFF3D transducer installed the same way? Is it sensitive to dirty water also?
 
Stretch89,
All transducers are affected by bad flow.
High frequency ones are less affected, but they are still affected.

Snips
 
Snips

I installed my DFF3D TZT12 this weekend. I can't wait to use it in my fishing spots. Could you better explain to me what effect the "beam width" adjustments have?

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regards

Angelo
 
Mamasso,
With the DFF3D you can only change the beam width viewing in the single/triple beam display mode. Your options are 20/20/20, 30/30/30, 40/40/40 or 50/50/50. Personally I use 40/40/40. If you choose to use 50/50/50 the beams will slightly over lap each other. When you choose 20/20/20, the center beam covers 10 degrees to port and 10 degrees to starboard. The Starboard beam covers from 10 to 30 starboard and the Port beam cover 10 to 30 degrees on the port side. The screen shot you posted is the Cross Section view (120 degrees) so changing the beam widths won't affect that display mode.

Snips
 
Snips

I wanted to understand the difference between Angle and Width setting. For as I understand the bottom cover (side) is related to the angle, but what about the width, which?

Regards

Angelo
 
Mamasso,
The Beam Width is how wide the beam(s) will be.
The Beam Angle is the direction the Port/Stbd beams will be pointed.

Snips
 
Snips

Sorry for the insistence, but I still don't understand what the effect of adjusting the BEAM WIDTH is. Did it have to do with the covered area in the fwd / aft direction of the boat?

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Thanks

Angelo
 
Good morning Mamasso,

Thank you for your inquiry. I will try to explain, a normal fish finder has 1 beam width and 1 angle. The beam angle is simple, it is looking straight down on most occasions, the beam width is fixed and is determined by the transducer, elements, and frequency. So on a normal fish finder you get beam width that is fixed looking at an angle that is straight down.

With the DFF3D you get to play with 3 different beam angles. You can choose to have the beam angles look in different directions port to starboard. The DFF3D also allows you to control the beam width for example. You could set the beam width to 20 degrees, meaning the width of each one of the 3 different beams is 20 degrees port to starboard. Then you can choose what angle from the vessel port to starboard to point them in.

We do not get to decide or change the forward/aft beam width or forward/aft beam angle.

Kind Regards,
C-Bass
 
Hi

Some images of my DFF3D setup in the 200 meter region. I didn't participate in the fishing, but my friends were crazy about the performance. Thanks SNIPS, your information was very important for you to decide on the purchase.
They used it almost all the time in automatic mode and got readings up to 230 meters.

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Video

https://youtu.be/q49VUPleWz0


Wreck

On DFF3D

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On Conventional CHIRP Garmin (GSD26 + R509LH)

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Regards

Angelo
 
Mamasso,
Thank you for posting your screen shots and glad to hear you are happy with your choice.
Can you share what type of fish are in them?

Snips
 
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