Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby flowmotion » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:48 am

Is the new FLIR M232 fully compatible with the TZ touch2? The link in the Furuno "Using FLIR M series" document links to the old FLIR M series. Will Furuno be updating the compatibility list?
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby Johnny Electron » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:20 am

The only IP video that the Furuno can see is AXIS cameras/video servers. I suppose it might be possible to get some sort of IP video decoder to give you composite to use with the TZT2 but I haven't heard of anyone testing that. Currently we offer no compatibility with any of the IP Video FLIR models. This is something that may change with software in the future.
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby flowmotion » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:14 pm

From the FLIR M-series specifications:
Analog Video Output NTSC, 30 Hz or <9 Hz
Analog Video Connector Types F-type BNC with BNC-to-RCA adapter included for video out

I see no IP issues.

Can the TZtouch2 interface to these cameras?
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby pluggedtheboat » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:14 am

The M232 is an IP camera not an analog video camera. M-series is m625s m625cs m324s m324cs or m618c/s which use analog video signal and Ethernet for control of camera.

M232 is consider an M100/200 camera which video is IP. At this time Furuno displays do not accept FLIR IP cameras. You need to get a ION r100 video decoder to change IP signal to analog. This is the only decoder know to work correctly. The Axis decoder does not work correctly. You will also need to purchase a JCU-3 FLIR part: A80510 . This is needed to control the M232 camera with 3rd party (NON Raymarine Displays) Keep in mind you will lose the Clear Crusie function which highlights targets on screen in yellow.

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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby flowmotion » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:02 am

I see Furuno updated their Flir camera information (see technical library). It shows Flir M series connected to the TZtouch2 via an ethernet hub, analog video, poe injector and JCU. It also states " controls for the latest model 400 are not supported...."

The network diagram shows analog video from the M-series into the TZ.

So, once again, please provide the Flir model numbers in the M series that will work with the TZt2 as shown in the network diagram.

https://www.furunousa.com/-/media/sites ... ameras.pdf
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby pluggedtheboat » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:20 am

As the Diagram stated all M series Cameras. Which mean only M Series or cameras with Analog video out.


M series cameras refers to the following M324, M625, M617, M618 all gyro stabilized with some Dual payload models are compatible with Furuno. It is a basic analog video signal. Same goes for Fixed mount "MD" series.

M100/200/400 AKA M132, M232, M400 are IP video cameras and Furuno does not support. You can get a IP Decoder which will convert the IP signal to Analog but will be required to purchase a JCU3 (Joystick Control unit ) from FLir.
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby flowmotion » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:14 am

The Furuno document is not clear. It should state the model numbers of the cameras since all start with M and are thus M Series.

Looking at the cameras listed above, they all cost a lot of money.
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby Johnny Electron » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:24 am

Officially only the non-stabilized FLIR M Series units are supported for Full control and video. FLIR is always adding more units to the market so it is always good to check. Any FLIR that offers composite output can have the video connected to the NN3D/TZT/TZT2 units. Not all of them offer tilt or PTZ control. FLIR units that don't have composite video and offer new IP video would require a IP to Composite converter from FLIR. This will allow you to see the video but as of right now these newer IP video units would not have any Tilt or PTZ control if that camera has them. You would just need to use the FLIR JCU to steer those cameras. The M400 although it hasn't be officially supported has been working fine with the TZT/TZT2. Early M400s had an issue suddenly pointing to the sky but as I understand it FLIR has solved this via a new firmware update. To be more specific about your question on the FLIR M232; it is not FULLY compatible. It would require the IP to Composite converter so you can see the video and then use the FLIR JCU for steering. The TZT/TZT2 will show the FLIR just fine once you convert the video properly.
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby MikeR13 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:03 pm

My marina has an M232 and joystick for sale as we speak and i was thinking of purchasing it. Do you think the quality of the camera would be reduced if that converter piece is utilized. Im not too worried about control on the screen itself and would just use the joystick. More worried about the picture. The FLIR rep at the marina explained it would work just fine with the TZT and 2 i have on my boat. But thats the rep.
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Re: Compatibility of NEW flir M-series cameras

Postby Johnny Electron » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:24 pm

Are are still testing the converter but they seem to do a good job with the video. This should only be needed for about 6 months. We found out that Japan is working on software changes to the TZT2 to allow direct connection without a converter sometime later this year if all works out.
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